Do not try to reason with Ben, they are interested in one thing and one thing only... winning. Winning the ball, winning the game or winning the league, it is all the same to them and rather like a mad scientist transformed into some kind of evil arch-villian, these guys will be virtually unstoppable. Ajax trees down have been put on this earth to do battle. They are here to protect the citizens of the world and bring justice once more to the game of soccer. Incredible.